WASHINGTON (AP) – Donald Trump’s campaign manager say Tim Kaine acted “like he had a tic” by mentioning Donald Trump so frequently in the debate.

Kellyann Conway said Trump is preparing “constantly” for his second debate against Hillary Clinton. She told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that Trump should be “tough but fair” against Clinton in Sunday’s debate.

But Conway is acknowledging that Trump needs to avoid getting distracted by fights about peripheral issues. She says Trump has a right to defend himself against attacks, but that he understands he’s best when he’s talking about Clinton or her record.